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"So are you going to milk cows or just grow your pig operation? "
Tempted
It's actually pretty attractive to me to use at least part of the infrastructure for what it was designed to do. I could, if I decided to, go buy a milking herd and be in the dairy business in a month or two. What attracts me to that is that it's pretty much a turnkey operation. What scares me about that idea is that the last guy who did it went broke.
I talked a lot about it in this post, and I actually had this farm in mind when I was talking about it, but that was while we were negotiating about prices, and I wasn't sure that I was going to get it into the price range I wanted to pay. I worried a lot about prices because land is probably the most expensive single thing you'll buy while you are farming, and you limit your choices (and ability to weather downturns) when you have a lot of debt. A key thing for this purchase was getting it at a price that made sense -- hopefully at less than it will be worth in a few years, and I think I've done that.
Life is good the way it is
So the simplest option is to do nothing on the farm -- pigs don't mind the dairy infrastructure, they just appreciate the roof and the shelter. Fill it with wood chips, use it as is, no change. The pig business will basically pay for the property.
Seems a waste not to use good ground
But I only need about 10 acres of the 70 for the pig part of the venture -- and pigs can use a lot of the land that's marginal -- you don't need prime cropland for pigs. Brushy overgrown areas, forested areas, all work pretty well for pig areas.
Low input farming
What i am considering is a grass fed dairy, and that's why I was over in the milking parlor in December. I wanted to get a feel for the work, and the issues, and how the barn was set up and so on. I'm grateful that the farmer was willing to let me see his operation because it made it a lot less scary to contemplate. He's milking 120 cows, and has a husband-and-wife team who are relief milkers for him, and is a pretty good model for what I've been thinking about.
My biggest fear
My biggest reservation about operating a dairy is that I am really, really, uneasy about how milk is sold.
I'll expand on that a little: If I don't like the price that a local butcher will pay for pigs, I have a relatively easy time finding a customer to buy my pig. If all else fails, I can go to the auction and sell the pigs -- probably for less than what I want, but I can sell them. Pigs are relatively liquid assets and I have a number of choices about how I'd like to sell them. If I can't sell them this week, since I've got low-cost feed it doesn't cost me much to keep them until next week, or even months, if I need to.
Milk is different. A dairy produces a lot of milk; thousands of gallons, and if you don't sell it relatively quickly, it rots. Dairy cooperatives work by pooling the production of many farmers, and the milk truck comes to your farm to pick up the milk. That's the good thing.
The bad thing is that the price you get for your milk is basically assigned to you. And if you don't like the price, you can choose not to sell it, but that's really not an option. And you have no ability to sell the milk to anyone else, usually, because of the cooperatives contract. if you're selling to dairygold, you cannot have your own private brand. Same for Organic Pastures, same for horizon, to name three cooperatives in my area.
You're married to your dairy co-op
So you have a highly perishable product that takes a lot of time and money to produce, and you have absolutely no control over the price you get for it and realistically, when you're a member of a coop, you have no choice about who you sell to.
Food prices are variable, and I fundamentally distrust the food market. I think that food prices are manipulated by external forces and that fact hits a dairy on both ends -- the cost of feed for your dairy is also affected. So both your input prices and production prices are subject to market forces that you have no control over.
A ray of hope
But every once in a while there's a little ray of hope, and what appears to be a path to profitable dairy farming. Here's what I think it looks like:
Your dairy only runs as many cows as it can produce food for. if you are producing your own forage you have much more control over the cost of that feed, and by doing so you have a big cost under control.
You own your own land outright, or have as low a cost of land as you can possibly get. In my case, the total payment on this property is about $1400 a month, plus utilities; I got there by a combination of a big down payment and very favorable interest rates right now. Lots of people pay $1400 a month as rent in the Seattle area. You want your fixed costs as low as you can possibly get -- this becomes your "retreat" number -- if things don't go well, an off-farm job could pay that mortgage pretty handily.
And finally, you figure out a market that isn't a dairy cooperative. If you want to see what I mean, take a look at this video.
Take home lessons from that dairy:
Organic certification - higher retail price
Small herd - they're milking 30-50 cows
Bottles their own product, sells direct to consumer, and to a local market chain
*NOT* a member of a coop -- has the flexibility to find other markets for their milk.
Gets a higher percentage of the retail dollars returned to the farm.
Their milk is selling for $10/gallon. ($115/cwt) That same milk sold to a coop would be $1.87/gallon ($23/cwt). Every dollar counts to the farm.
So that's where I am. The waste-not part of me would like to use the infrastructure. The engineer part of me says that it could work. The business manager part of me wants to see a few more farms and get some more experience before committing.
So my plans are this point are to close the deal as quickly as I can, hopefully before the growing season starts, and plant those corn fields with grass and some experimental plots. I'd like to see if alfalfa can grow out there. I'll probably plant some corn, a few acres of it, and some other things, and I'll keep thinking about the dairy. I'm certain that I will have a personal milk cow; the question is whether I'll buy another 60 cows to keep her company.
I haven't decided.
With all that land and only needing 10 acres for the pigs give this a thought. Create a food forest to be used 5-7 years out to feed pigs or maybe cows if you go that route. Use Honey locust as the overstory (edible pods in fall, and you can grow grass under them great) Midstory use mulberry (can feed the fruit or the leaves are high in protein) Apples (for cider production and feed) etc. Properly designed the possibilities are endless. It would take some time to develop but you might find it a good use for a little of that land.
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ReplyDeleteAs to the cows, I know that you have a feed system that works for you, but as it seems that you are moving to another location/situation, what about using the cow milk for the pigs? (If you're only getting $1.XX/gallon of milk from a coop, that is pretty cheap food..) You could see if you even like cows (I know I'm not particularly fond of them..), and if they would be worth your effort on your farm. (plus cheap, yummy, raw milk for your household) You could cheaply raise more pigs, while seeing if the added cost of building a bottling plant would be worth the investment (and possibly funding it with the pigs) Plus, I like Hostetter's comment ;) Wanna do that for my place.
One more thought, La La said use the milk to feed the Pigs, how about use the milk to make cheese and use the whey to feed the pigs. Then finish them off in the food forest. I'm so excited for you Bruce the fun is just begining. Just ask your readers we have all the answers for you. :)
ReplyDeleteTo give you an idea why milking cows to feed pigs is not a winning economic plan: Even if you value your milk at the low price of $1/gallon, a quick back of the envelope calculation shows that you'd be paying the equivalent of about $.45/ 1000 kcal for milk and $.13/ 1000 kcal for hog feed (at $500/ton).
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